tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2805100829126623437.post4788205848569275607..comments2024-03-19T00:16:42.361-07:00Comments on Hikin' Jim's Blog: Water Sources of the San Jacinto Mountains -- West SideHikin' Jimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01554269915148144573noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2805100829126623437.post-17739399297096935812018-07-23T11:05:12.458-07:002018-07-23T11:05:12.458-07:00Hi Jim,
Do you think Bed Springs be flowing Augu...Hi Jim, <br /><br />Do you think Bed Springs be flowing August 25 2018?<br />Thanks for your help. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12011854333007238174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2805100829126623437.post-15170845460853318022017-09-17T12:54:44.824-07:002017-09-17T12:54:44.824-07:00Hi Jim, I appreciate your continued support for hi...Hi Jim, I appreciate your continued support for hikes on SJ. I'm planning two nights at little Round Valley in Oct. '17. Can you give some info about the water availability? Thank you <br />RickAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10576714580898026962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2805100829126623437.post-7906641407204737242017-05-02T13:37:08.744-07:002017-05-02T13:37:08.744-07:00Always good; always reliable. Count on it.
HJAlways good; always reliable. Count on it.<br /><br />HJHikin' Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01554269915148144573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2805100829126623437.post-2645457644330507262017-05-02T13:36:42.872-07:002017-05-02T13:36:42.872-07:00It should be flowing, but I haven't been up fo...It should be flowing, but I haven't been up for over a month. Everything was still under snow when I was last there.<br /><br />Your best bet is to call the State Park ranger station: (760) 327-0222.<br /><br />HJHikin' Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01554269915148144573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2805100829126623437.post-83557105060147404672017-05-01T13:48:06.334-07:002017-05-01T13:48:06.334-07:00Can you give me the status on Round Valley this sp...Can you give me the status on Round Valley this spring? Is there water flowing now?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07936231249157195616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2805100829126623437.post-43688324124123559452017-01-02T21:53:41.828-08:002017-01-02T21:53:41.828-08:00Hi, Mike,
Not sure FS even knows it's there. ...Hi, Mike,<br /><br />Not sure FS even knows it's there. There are two frames, what's left of them. One of them is pretty far gone now. <br /><br />With respect to trail junctions, I have a map where I have marked all the names as I know them:<br />http://caltopo.com/m/6V2F<br /><br />If I'm understanding your correctly as to which junction you are referring to, I've always heard and called that "Cienega Junction". It's sort of between Strawberry Cienega and Wellman's Cienega, so it seems a very appropriate name.<br /><br />HJ Hikin' Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01554269915148144573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2805100829126623437.post-4121566747959524802016-12-31T16:16:51.207-08:002016-12-31T16:16:51.207-08:00Hi jim. It's been a few years since I have b...Hi jim. It's been a few years since I have been up to Bed Springs. Do you know if the 'bed' is still there, or has FS removed it now?<br />Also another question: We know that Strawberry junction is where the DS trail intersects the PCT, but what is the name of the junction where the the PCT leaves Angels Glide? I had always heard it referred to as 'Strawberry Cienega junction' by old timers, who have since passed. I am going to be one of those old timers in about 10 years and want to impart my knowledge on the youngins, before someone names a dry creek bed, or some such irony, after Me.<br />Thx. Happy New Year. Mike G.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02381289713092488400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2805100829126623437.post-5783530668430195842016-11-08T13:40:54.560-08:002016-11-08T13:40:54.560-08:00Hi Jim,
Any info on water source for Bed Spring? G...Hi Jim,<br />Any info on water source for Bed Spring? Going up this weekend. ThanksEddie Alvarezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07923545694931877775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2805100829126623437.post-33775998957379458662016-10-24T21:01:35.615-07:002016-10-24T21:01:35.615-07:00Bed Springs is still flowing and is highly reliabl...Bed Springs is still flowing and is highly reliable. <br />Joyce Springs *might* have water. <br />Deer Springs *might* have water.<br />Rock Spring will probably not have water.<br />Lilly Spring will have water but flow is low and muddy.<br />No water at Little Round Valley.<br /><br />Just plan around Bed Springs.<br /><br />HJHikin' Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01554269915148144573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2805100829126623437.post-82133618815774002332016-10-24T13:09:22.554-07:002016-10-24T13:09:22.554-07:00Any updates on water sources along Deer Springs Tr...Any updates on water sources along Deer Springs Trail? Planning an overnight trip this weekend and hoping I don't have to carry all water.<br /><br />Is Bed Spring still flowing and reliable? Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12152493448168699447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2805100829126623437.post-16730700295670372542016-10-04T18:29:29.819-07:002016-10-04T18:29:29.819-07:00Thanks HJ, I appreciate it.Thanks HJ, I appreciate it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2805100829126623437.post-60674167759290376952016-10-03T22:33:29.718-07:002016-10-03T22:33:29.718-07:00Brenda, Thanks for the updates.
The camp is for ...Brenda, Thanks for the updates.<br /><br />The camp is for the California Conservation Corps. I'm not sure exactly what their water arrangements are, but if they've put in a pipe, perhaps they've found something reliable. As for me, I don't count on Deer Springs in the summer and never in a drought year.<br /><br />HJHikin' Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01554269915148144573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2805100829126623437.post-57477346646702031332016-10-03T22:30:56.201-07:002016-10-03T22:30:56.201-07:00John, I don't think camping is permitted at De...John, I don't think camping is permitted at Deer Springs anymore for the public. When you apply for your wilderness permit from Mt. San Jacinto State Park, ask where you can camp.<br /><br />As for how much water you should carry, you should base that on how much you have needed on comparable hikes. Bed Springs is really reliable, and you might find water at Joyce and Lilly Springs. Little Round Valley, Round Valley, and Wellmans Cienega are dry.<br /><br />HJHikin' Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01554269915148144573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2805100829126623437.post-53752180639840673462016-10-03T12:35:22.095-07:002016-10-03T12:35:22.095-07:00I meant this route. ;)
https://hikingguy.com/hiki...I meant this route. ;)<br /><br />https://hikingguy.com/hiking-trails/hiking-la/hike-mount-san-jacinto-from-idyllwild/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2805100829126623437.post-50330021849928661212016-10-03T12:23:01.044-07:002016-10-03T12:23:01.044-07:00Planning an overnight this weekend, first time to ...Planning an overnight this weekend, first time to SJ, plan is to hike from from Idyllwood, up(using this trail http://hikinjim.blogspot.com/2013/07/water-sources-of-san-jacinto-mountains.html) The park website says round valley "and other sites" are dry. Would the Deer Springs camp work as a good place to stop and camp/break up the hike and how much water should we carry(2 people)? Thanks<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2805100829126623437.post-53678554852566511502016-09-20T10:55:10.393-07:002016-09-20T10:55:10.393-07:00Very belated report on my Sept 10 2016 trip from D...Very belated report on my Sept 10 2016 trip from Deer Springs trailhead. Thank you for being so accurate and detailed HJ! Bed Springs easily accessible and running well across the trail above Deer Springs camp. Other less accessible springs nearby. Lower part of the trail had one brackish spot with yellow jackets everywhere. Have details of locations and photos if I need them later. Also noticed Deer Springs Camp has piping under trail, running up the hill and to a spigot in their private camp (conservation Corp or scouts or who?) Is their water in camp seasonal or are they diverting a perrenial spring? Brendahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02897184152507728575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2805100829126623437.post-237976021652913642016-09-09T07:46:37.597-07:002016-09-09T07:46:37.597-07:00Thanks HJ! Plan to via Deer Springs.Thanks HJ! Plan to via Deer Springs.Brendahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02897184152507728575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2805100829126623437.post-30445571585581386302016-09-04T22:24:16.712-07:002016-09-04T22:24:16.712-07:00Hi, Brenda,
If you're coming up from Deer Spr...Hi, Brenda,<br /><br />If you're coming up from Deer Springs to LRV via Wellman Divide, you probably won't find any water on your way there. I was up a few weeks ago, and Wellman Cienega was very close to being completely dry. <br /><br />Now, if you go past Little Round Valley, down to Bed Springs, you should have no trouble. Bed Springs is running fine and should be reliable throughout 2016.<br /><br />Hope that helps,<br /><br />HJHikin' Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01554269915148144573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2805100829126623437.post-45177757502015475302016-09-04T22:21:19.604-07:002016-09-04T22:21:19.604-07:00Hi, Dusty,
The "seep" you're referr...Hi, Dusty,<br /><br />The "seep" you're referring to is Lilly Spring. It's pretty much just mud with a trickle of water right now. In some years, it's the best source close to Little Round Valley, when Little Round Valley is dry. <br /><br />I agree with you, though, that Bed Springs Crossing is so good that there's little reason to go after the other nearby sources.<br /><br />HJHikin' Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01554269915148144573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2805100829126623437.post-18288466743421104812016-09-04T14:12:35.900-07:002016-09-04T14:12:35.900-07:00Apologies if this is a duplicate. Jim Thank You fo...Apologies if this is a duplicate. Jim Thank You for making San Jacinto and San Gorgonio safer! Planning a on night stay at Little Round Valley via Deer Springs/Wellman Divide route. Any recent info on water at Bed Springs crossing?Brendahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02897184152507728575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2805100829126623437.post-1578810690369505362016-08-15T12:36:20.777-07:002016-08-15T12:36:20.777-07:00Hiked Marion Mtn to SJ Peak on Aug 14, 2016. Ther...Hiked Marion Mtn to SJ Peak on Aug 14, 2016. There are three sources of water, all within about 1/4 mile of each other along the trail about 1/2 mile downhill from Little Round Valley. I believe you call them Bed Springs Crossing, Rock Springs, and a seep another 200 yards up the trail. The spring was flowing well, maybe 1.5" deep and 16" wide. Plenty of flow to fill up. The Rock Spring was nothing more than a sump. The seep was flowing down the trail and making lots of mud for 50 yards or so. No need to stop at the seep or the sump as the spring is so close.Dustyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00130265072078024945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2805100829126623437.post-18196384870110910352016-07-21T21:45:12.937-07:002016-07-21T21:45:12.937-07:00That's Bed Springs Crossing where you got your...That's Bed Springs Crossing where you got your water coming and going. That's the only thing up there with any substantial flow right now.<br /><br />Glad you had a good time,<br /><br />HJHikin' Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01554269915148144573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2805100829126623437.post-27216578237205403992016-07-21T21:44:02.818-07:002016-07-21T21:44:02.818-07:00Ha, ha. Well, thanks.
HJHa, ha. Well, thanks.<br /><br />HJHikin' Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01554269915148144573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2805100829126623437.post-13712789410449912752016-07-21T16:04:46.537-07:002016-07-21T16:04:46.537-07:00Report on our backpacking to San Jacinto Peak two ...Report on our backpacking to San Jacinto Peak two weeks ago. Well, we didn't make it to the summit, but made it to Strawberry Junction, Little Round Valley and back down to Strawberry Junction. We just didn't have enough in us to make that last 1.3 mile to the summit. The only water source was a flowing stream between Strawberry and Little Round Valley, I don't know which name Hikin Jim uses for this stream, but it was great. We filtered water from this stream going up and coming back down. Met a big black rattlesnake on the trail. Views were spectacular and very clear. Slight wind which was surprising given forecast was 15-20 mph winds. Great 1st backpacking trip. Will do it again to the summit next time!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09792685192346790112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2805100829126623437.post-20805855588207126432016-07-08T18:04:17.494-07:002016-07-08T18:04:17.494-07:00HJ, terrific news! Correct, I'm starting at D...HJ, terrific news! Correct, I'm starting at Deer Springs trailhead at Idyllwild. I like your approach, I think we can do it. You are freaking awesome!<br /><br />HoAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09792685192346790112noreply@blogger.com